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This is too boring!
Zhao Chun said again: "Gao Taiwei, do you think mutton or rabbit meat is better?"
"Of course it's rabbit meat!" Gao Qiu blurted out, "Rabbit meat is much tastier than mutton!"
"What about Wang Taiwei?" Zhao Chun asked again.
If the young man in front of him was not the Fifth Prince, Wang Zonglin would never have answered such a childish question.
Wang Zonglin said: "I think mutton is delicious."
Zhao Chun nodded, and asked other people one after another.
Some people answered that rabbit meat was delicious, while others answered that mutton was delicious.
Finally, Zhao Chun asked Zhu Xi: "So, is rabbit meat or mutton better?"
Zhu Xi was stunned.
Let me tell you, it’s fine if your rabbits come and go, but how come the sheep are also involved?
Unexpectedly, Zhao Chun said: "So there is no single answer, right?"
"There really isn't a single answer," Qian Yuqing said.
Zhao Chun asked again: "But why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west is the only answer?"
This silenced everyone.
People didn't feel that the questions Zhao Chun asked were naive, but instead became profound.
At this time, Chen Gui stood up and said: "The sun rises in the east and sets in the west, and objects fall from above. Call it a fact."
"I got it! I got it!" Gao Qi immediately jumped out and said, "Which meat is better, lamb or rabbit meat, is just a human perception, but it may not be a fact."
Chen Gui continued: "That's right, everyone's perception is different. If you use your self-perception as a fact, it will appear that I think mutton is better than rabbit, so everyone in the world should think that mutton is better than rabbit." Illusion, which is obviously wrong."
Speaking of this, I am undoubtedly saying: Zhu Xi, your theory of heaven and qi are all personal perceptions that have not been verified, and there may be self-illusion.
All the ministers present were stunned, and they all looked at the fifth prince with shocking eyes.
In fact, in life, people know that their perceptions may be wrong, but no one seriously distinguishes what is a fact and what is a subjective point of view.
Or more people have always faced the world with a perceptual self, thinking that their subjective cognition is the truth.
For example, if they are in a bad mood today, they feel that the world is collapsing, and when they see someone fighting in front of them tomorrow, they feel that the world is extremely unsafe.
The day after tomorrow, when they heard someone say something, they said: This is not simple, I already knew it.
Why do you know a lot of truths and still have a hard time living this life?
Because the truth that many people know only stays at the impression level.
People's cognition of things is divided into three layers: impression, cognition, and logic.
For example, when you see a white rabbit for the first time, you say: Oh, so the rabbit is white.
The first time I fell in love and was hurt by a scumbag man and a scumbag woman, I said: Oh, so there is no good thing for a man or a woman.
When I entered the cognitive level, I realized: Oh, it turns out that rabbits have many colors.
When I entered the logical level, I realized: Oh, I saw a white rabbit, but it does not mean that all rabbits are white.
Logical logic is to break through daily cognition through superficial impressions, distinguish particularity from universality, and the inner connection between things.
If a person stays at the impression level of things forever, he will feel that he knows a lot!
Various macro narratives, save the world!
Finally, during the interview process, I stammered and answered the interviewer's questions, fearing that my salary requirements would be too high to scare the interviewer.
At this point, Zhu Xi has fully understood what Zhao Chun said.
He was shocked that Zhao Chun could use rabbits and sheep to describe things so thoroughly!
Zhu Xi was not angry, nor was he ready to argue with Zhao Chun.
Perhaps due to the limitations of the times, he was unable to think more figuratively, but this does not mean that he has no logical dialectical ability.
Hearing Zhao Chun's words, Zhu Xi not only was not ready to refute immediately, but felt as if a door had been opened.
Especially the distinction between subjective assumptions and objective facts mentioned by Zhao Chun.
But there was still one point that Zhu Xi couldn't figure out. He asked, "If according to what you say, good and evil are also subjective assumptions, so does justice still exist?"
Zhu Xi immediately asked one of the core questions of human society.
The hall immediately fell silent.
Good and evil are all evaluated by people. Since human evaluations are different from facts, good and evil may not be objectively existing facts.
If this conclusion is true, the values of everyone present will collapse.
Chapter 1525 Good and Evil (Second Change)
This time, Zhu Xi's question silenced Zhao Chunwen.
A hint of doubt and incomprehension appeared on Zhao Chun's face.
Everyone could see that the Fifth Prince might not be able to answer this question.
However, the impression of the Fifth Prince has greatly changed.
The fifth prince seemed weak in writing and seldom spoke, but he didn't expect that there was so much knowledge in his little head.
He also spoke very gently, speaking slowly like flowing water, without rush or impatience.
And every word and every sentence he said was very simple, without any pretentiousness, starting from the daily life, thinking about it.
This is a sincere and frank prince.
Seeing that Zhao Chun couldn't answer, Zhu Xi was more or less disappointed.
He was actually inspired by Zhao Chun's debate.
Zhu Xi actually attached great importance to the difference between good and evil in the world.
Now that Zhao Chun expressed his views on Dao and utensils in another way, Zhu Xi very much hoped to hear his explanation on good and evil.
But it seems that the prince may not be able to give a satisfactory answer.
"It's not easy. Good and evil are judged by ourselves, and they must not be facts." Gao Qiu immediately came out to smooth things over and protect the face of the fifth prince, "I think what the fifth prince said is too right. Empowerment!"
A small number of people around also began to respond.
But most were silent.
Because if good and evil are truly subjective, wouldn't there be no standard for measuring wicked people in the world?
Then the world will be in chaos!
It's a scary question, and it's creepy to think about.
"Okay! Today's debate is very exciting. According to Brother Chun, Zhu Xi's theory of qi and the theory of heaven have not been proved to be wrong, but they are subjective conjectures."
Zhao Guanjia above finally spoke.
Only then did everyone concentrate.
But Zhao Guanjia stood up from the dragon chair and walked down step by step.
"Zhu Yuanhui, what do you think?" Zhao Ning walked up to Zhu Xi and asked.
"As for the debate between subjective assumptions and facts, Xiaomin thinks what the fifth prince said is reasonable."
"Okay, since you think what he said is reasonable, let me answer your question about good and evil."
Zhao Ning used me instead of me, which shows that he does not want to participate in this debate as the emperor.
Zhu Xi said: "Please give your Majesty some pointers."
All the ministers also pricked up their ears, wanting to hear Zhao Guan's views on good and evil.
The good and evil here are obviously not what ordinary people call good and evil.
What Zhao Guanjia said next must be based on the discussion between Zhu Xi and Zhao Chun just now.
Zhao Ning asked suddenly: "If a person kills someone, is he evil?"
I didn't expect Zhao Guanjia to ask such a straightforward and simple question as soon as he came up.
As His Majesty's most loyal subject, if you want to let His Majesty know of your existence, you can only rush to answer!
The first person to answer was Mo Chou. He said, "Of course it is evil. Killing people pays their lives. It has been the law of heaven since ancient times!"
But Sun Fu said: "If someone wants to kill you now, but you don't succeed, and you kill him instead, is this also evil?"
Sun Fu's words undoubtedly complicate this seemingly simple question.
But Zhao Ning didn't answer directly, but asked again: "Should evil be punished?"
Now everyone hesitated, but Yu Yunwen came out and said: "If it is evil, it should be punished!"
"Why?" Zhao Guanjia asked again.
Why?
Isn't this obvious!
Hu Quan said: "Once the evil deeds are not punished, more people will commit evil deeds, because others commit evil deeds, and if you don't do evil deeds, you will face threats."
Everyone agreed with Hu Quan's statement.
Zhao Ning said: "So, evil and good are not just about individuals, but about groups?"
The expressions of the ministers changed, and they suddenly knew what Zhao Guanjia was going to say.
Zhao Ning asked again: "If a person kills a friend who is very good to him because he is greedy for his friend's family property and beautiful wife, is this person evil?"
"It must be evil!" Zhu Xi said.
"Then if a person unites with a friend's wife and wants to kill a friend who is good to him, and after being discovered by the friend, the friend counter-kills him at a critical moment, is this friend evil?"
"Nature is not evil!"
"Why?"
"If this friend's behavior is defined as evil, he must be punished. If he is punished, then friends can do harm at will in the future?" Zhu Xi replied truthfully, "If this is the case, the world will still collapse. "
Zhao Ning nodded, and asked again: "If a person insults passers-by for no reason on the street, is he evil?"
"It's evil, but it's just a small evil."
"What's the difference between the lesser evil and the greater evil?"
Gao Qiu replied: "Small evils stop at words, but great evils lie in deeds."
Zhao Ning said again: "Then how can we restrain the little evil?"
"Regulate minor evil with virtue." Gao Qiu said again.
Zhao Guanjia asked again: "Why?"
Zhu Xi said: "If small evils are severely punished by law, everyone will break the law. If this is the case, the law will not become law."
This is exactly what Luo Congyan thinks, don't punish severely for small mistakes, because everyone makes mistakes, don't tolerate big evils, if you tolerate, it will break the rules.
"So, whether it is a small evil or a big evil, it is not only an individual behavior, but also related to the group?"
Everyone looked at each other.
Zhao Ning asked again: "What about kindness, why should a person do kindness?"
Seeing that Gao Qiu had rushed to answer several times, Wang Zonglin immediately said: "Praise benevolence is to benefit others, and it is even more self-interested."
"Why?"
Wang Zonglian said again: "A person who does good and does not do evil to others is to protect himself and avoid being in a dangerous situation."
"So, kindness is not just an individual behavior, but also related to the group?"
"Your Majesty said yes."
"Then according to your answers just now, good and evil are not simple individual behaviors, they are all related to groups, right?"
When he said this, Zhao Ning looked at Zhu Xi.
Zhu Xi nodded and said, "Yes."